Elsewhere, I suggest you re-read paragraph four of the press item; these expatriate Iraqis are not supporters of Saddam.
Did you even READ the article?
I assumed the title of the thread was employing the use of irony, given Elsewhere's politics...
Sara Annie
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Iraqis in Iran (free from US military) express their support for Saddam
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83889,00.html
200 iraqis storm their embassy in iran .
friday, april 11, 2003. .
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USA- Liberator?
by proplog2 indon't get sucked in by the propaganda that the usa is some kind of benevolent angel promoting freedom for a world suffering under ruthless dictators.. do you remember the shah of iran?.
do you know anything about how he came to power?.
have you ever heard of savak?
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Sara Annie
Your post, although funny, is an effort to cover up your inability or unwillingness to respond appropriately to my position. It is simply a substitute for relevant evidence.
My response wasn't intended as a rebuttal. I disagree that the book of Revelation has any significance as a prophetic tool whatsoever, and therefore could hardly go delving into finding "relevant evidence" to support or disprove your position with that text as a basis for argument. I wasn't displaying an inability to respond "appropriately", I apologize if I offended or upset you, that was not at all my intention.
It was simply a light hearted, well-intentioned attempt to show that assignation of meaning is hardly a phenomenon unique to the Bible. I wonder if, in ancient times, attempts to glean meaning from biblical text were perceived to be just as ridiculous as my post was. In the last 40 years, a gigantic corporate religious empire has been created (and is thriving) around the works of a third rate science fiction writer. Today, the Scientologists are a generally thought of as a giant pack of whackos, but in two thousand years they could very well be seen as a legitimate, mainstream religion. Who knows?
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USA- Liberator?
by proplog2 indon't get sucked in by the propaganda that the usa is some kind of benevolent angel promoting freedom for a world suffering under ruthless dictators.. do you remember the shah of iran?.
do you know anything about how he came to power?.
have you ever heard of savak?
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Sara Annie
Since we're using popular fiction as a prophetic tool, I would like to submit the following: I have read the complete works of Dr. Seuss and have determined that America is the great and powerful figure symbolized by "The Cat in the Hat". Think about it:
1. Both have red and white stripes on the item that is their unique identifier.
2. Both have gone into other people's 'houses' and engaged in behavior that has led to destruction (see pg. 14 of 'The Cat in the Hat' where TCITH nearly smashes the fishbowl, and pg. 17 in 'The Cat in the Hat Comes Back' where he topples the coat rack, causing havoc on the family's outerwear organizational system).
3. Both have tried, and succeeded, to push their cultural traditions on others. For God's sake, "Green Eggs and Ham" is the most powerful allegorical work I have ever read concerning the insistence of foreign parties that people adopt despicable habits and tastes.
It's right there in front of your faces, and you refuse to see.
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shunned in my own home
by wednesday ini just ordered the true believer from amazon, ordered it used.
very much looking forward to reading it.
btw, my husband has been basicaly shunning me due to this board.
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Sara Annie
he is talking to me as little as possible and says "I have changed the rules'. wow, people change and grow in a marriage.The rules do change.
The rules do change, people change, and circumstances change. That's part of life.
However, I do have compassion for your husband. I do NOT condone his treatment of you, but I can understand how a shift in such a fundamental belief could greatly effect a marriage. To have a spouse reject that something that is such a large part of their lives, no matter how "good" the decision is, must be very difficult. I saw the identical (but flip-flopped) situation happen when my Aunt embraced witness theology after being married for nearly 20 years. Her husband felt exactly the same way--the rules had changed and my uncle suddenly didn't know how to handle this woman and her new beliefs.
I believe there are three "deal-breakers" when it comes to marriage: Handling of money, the desire to have/how to raise children, and religion. No matter what the views are, coming to a common decision about these issues is essential in whether a marriage can/will work. And when one partner dramatically changes their view of any of the big three issues, it can be terribly stressful for the other spouse. I have seen it happen with financial decisions and handling, I have seen it happen several times with couples who initially agreed not to have children where one spouse now desperately wants them, and I have absolutely seen it happen when religious beliefs change dramatically.
That said, the difficulty experienced does not mean that a marriage should be dissolved. I believe the vows taken at your wedding are binding, and that the most difficult of situations need to be dealt with. But it isn't easy, it can take a lot of time and hard work. The fact that your husband is willing to read COC is very encouraging, he must love you very much--I have heard so many stories relaying how spouses wouldn't agree to ANYTHING they deemed "forbidden". My wish is that you will be kind to each other during this difficult period, and come out of this period with a greater understanding of each other, having made united decisions that will ultimately make your marriage stronger. I will be thinking about you.
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Bought 'True Believer" and 'Illusions'
by Satanus ini bought 'the true believer' by eric hoffer, and 'illusions' by richard bach (started reading it).
among other things i did, i also bought a pound of starbucks coffee, and watched the sunset.
not a bad day.
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Sara Annie
Illusions is one of my all time favorite books. It summed up the way I feel about God, the universe, and my relationship to both. I can't recommend it highly enough. A thoroughly enjoyable read, it manages to present the most profound ideas through the deceptively simple story line. Whenever I hear someone loudly touting a nebulous belief as a fact, I remember the last words Richard read in the Messiah's handbook as it fell, open, to the ground.
If you haven't read it already, do so. And then you'll understand why even, all these years after I first read it, I still lay out on the back hill trying to make clouds disappear...
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I Washed my Husbands Balls!!
by teenyuck inhe brought them home and they were dirty!!
when he pulled them out, i was shocked at how much dirt can accumulate!
he has not played with them that much.
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Sara Annie
talk about foreplay
Very cute.
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SEE THE REAL FACE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ, SEE THE HORROR
by justhuman insince the media in u.s show nothing about the war in iraq, and bush's administration censor everything that is "bad' for the puplic, here are some shocking photos of how bush is setting free the iraqi people.
similar view of how watchtower's god will treat everyone who disagrees with them in armageddon.
bush does not care about the iraqi people.
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Sara Annie
yup.
This is quite an inciteful article:
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1295/8_64/63904140/p1/article.jhtml
Ok, admittedly this is not a particularly germane comment, but the irony in the misused homonym in Simon's post had me rolling.
God, I'm a geek.
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Liberals have lost the Iraq argument, so please stop whining...
by dolphman innothing you said was going to happen has actually happened.
the iraqis have welcomed us with open arms.
we have not decimated baghdad's infrastructure.
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Sara Annie
Just picture if it was the other ways round ... imagine the American troops suffered heavy casualties. Do you image we would be posting "Right-wingers have lost the Iraq argument, so please stop whining ... yah boo we told you so"? I don't think so ...
Well, yes, I think that's exactly what would happen. Exact phrasing notwithstanding the "See I told you so" party line has been posted numerous times by many posters on both ends of the ideological spectrum about various situations that have arisen in this conflict thus far.
There will always be ineffective, childish arguments by a certain percentage of people on both sides of any debate. Neither "side" of this issue gets to claim moral or intellectual superiority in the posting around here. The inflammatory language and tiresome rhetoric is pretty much even.
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Could you? Would you?
by Prisca incan you see yourself remarrying (or getting into another long-term defacto relationship) if your partner died?
i'm not talking about the usual situation where people get divorced, but if your partner died, and you suddenly found yourself single again?.
could you handle it emotionally?
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Sara Annie
It's an interesting question. My husband and I have actually talked about it (sounds a little creepy, but we talk about everything) and both decided that if one of us died, we'd want the other person to find love again (with a stipulation that the surviving spouse not get over the other too quickly, of course :)). I have to admit that I can't imagine being married to anyone else, it just doesn't seem possible that I could ever love someone they way I love him. Add to that the fact that he's promised to outlive me, and I hope I never find myself without him. But then again, life is notorious for not ending up exactly how we think it should, and we adapt to whatever situation we are given. I never saw myself married to someone who'd been married before, or having stepchildren and a blended family, and it turns out I'm exactly where I belong.
As to marriage after the death of a spouse, there are horror stories galore from children and friends of widowed men and women who remarry. As for us, we've had the most wonderful role model for a surviving spouse's remarriage in my Father in Law. My husband's mother died the year after we got married after a three year battle with breast cancer. Her loss was devastating to my husband (and myself, she was a wonderful woman) and, of course, to my FIL. Two years after her death, my FIL met a lovely woman he began to see socially, and after about a year it was obvious that they had fallen in love. Was it difficult at first to see him to someone else? You betcha. My husband (and I) had a difficult time, at first, but my FIL was honest about his feelings, and told us that he and my MIL has spoken about remarriage before her death, and that she wanted him to love again. It made sense, but when they announced their intention to marry, it was still difficult emotionally to accept what made perfect intellectual sense. What made the situation immeasurably easier to deal with was how this new love in his life assimilated herself into our lives. I think what impressed me immediately is how she was adamant that my MIL's memory be kept alive. Her feeling was that my MIL had been such a defining force in her new husband's life, that she was grateful to her for helping him to become the man she loved. When they were setting up house before the wedding, one of the first things she did was go through the family pictures and choose which photos of my MIL my FIL would like displayed. A picture of my FIL, MIL, husband and his sister hangs on the same wall that a new picture of the couple taken after their wedding is on. She is genuine, loving, kind and makes my FIL very happy. She knows she'll never replace my MIL, but her presence in the family has been an unexpected pleasure. I think that finding happiness in love once in a lifetime is amazing. Finding it twice must be a miracle.
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Sara Annie
All the while, the parent who pays the child support knowingly continues to pay the portion that is designated for day care just as if the child were in daycare. Does that make sense?
If the parent is KNOWINGLY paying the portion of the child support order earmarked for day-care when there are no children actually in daycare, that's really their business, isn't it? There are legal channels available to make changes to support orders based on changes in circumstance. If the non-custodial parent continues to pay the amount with the full knowledge that the portion originally designated to pay day-care isn't being utilized for that purpose, they are able to have the order reduced accordingly based on that information. If they choose not to pursue that, they may continue to pay for a variety of reasons, among them that the extra money isn't a burden for them, and that they don't want to challenge the order. Is the custodial parent's demand for the money under false pretenses right? No. But if the non-custodial parent doesn't challenge it even after they have full knowledge of the situation, it doesn't much matter what you, I, or anyone else thinks.